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ZeroZeroEight

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  • How the fuck is Axel not an antagonist?! The fucker threatened Eleven (an innocent little girl) with a switchblade! HE IS A FUCKING ANTAGONIST!!!

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  • Hi, Good Day! I am a Communication student and I am doing a research about the influence of Stranger Thing's Pop Culture influence our current pop culture. I have included your article for our research and to make the formal citation I wanted to request for your real name and the other admin. Thank you

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    • Hello! I'm glad that you are including one of the wiki's articles for your research! Answering your question about who mainly wrote it, the article is pretty much an amalgamation of several users' efforts. The article itself was created by a user named FishTank, and looking through the page's history , many edits appeared to have been from users 80XPD and TheGreatGabester. You can try leaving messages on their walls if you like, but TheGreatGabester is currently inactive on the wiki (though you still may get a response).

      To be honest, I haven't written as much for the article as the users I've just listed have, so I'm not sure if I should really be included. I would give you my real name, but unfortunately this site isn't the best for these kinds of things, since all activity appears in the activity feed and can be seen by anyone. If you are willing to arrange another way for me to contact you, I'll gladly do it.

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  • Hi 008, hope you're good, I regret to say that I will be unable to make any edits for the foreseeable future. Other commitments in my life mean I have to maximise the use of my time for now, and unfortunately, that means cutting out time working on the wiki. I may do the occasional minor edit, and I may possibly return to proper editing duties. But for now, I'm afraid I won't be around. Sorry this is so short notice. If it turns out that I cannot return to work on the wiki, I would like to thank you for being a great collaborator, and I hope the best for the wiki going forward. TheGreatGabester

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    • I'm sad to see you go, but I completely understand. I wish you luck in all your current and future endeavors. You too, were a great person to work with (and an excellent writer!). I hope you'll be able to return, but if you can't, I understand. Thanks for all your great work and help with the wiki, I wish you the best.

      ZeroZeroEight

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  • Could you please add pics of Drunk Teen #1 and Sweaty Teen Boy, please?

    P.S. Don't you think the Sweaty Teen Boy should have his own page since he appeared in three episodes?

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    • I'll try to add them soon.

      Yeah, I suppose so since he appeared in 3 episodes. Though, I think the page should be named something other than Sweaty Teen Boy. 

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    • Also, Ally, the girl who Nancy asks where Barb is is mentioned in the episode Dig Dug as her parents believed that she was staying at her house, so do you think that she should deserve a page too?

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    • No, because if she was only mentioned, she still only appeared in one episode. Plus, we don't know if they were referring to that specific person, since it could easily be another person named Ally.

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  • Okay, I've made a draft of the new UDnav with that template you provided. Let me know what you think.

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  • A couple of small things:

    1. Do you have any thoughts on the Hawkins tunnel system article? Generally, I think it's in a good place, but the main thing which bothers me is the "spore-spray". I've looked around online for interviews which could provide a better name for this thing, but I've had no luck yet. Do you think it needs to be changed? I've seen a few articles where it's described as a gland, or a valve. But nothing from official sources.

    2. I played around with the UD Navbox, and I thought it would be fun if that particular Navbox had a color scheme to match the Upside Down. I'm thinking, probably different shades of blue. While you certainly want visual consistency across a website, you also want little bits and pieces that catch your eye and break things up a bit, if you get what I mean. As long as they don't appear totally out-of-place.

    However, as I quickly realised, this would probably mean creating new templates, documentation etc, which I am proficient, yet not amazing, at doing. Do you think this idea would be more effort than it's worth?

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    • Looks good! Great job!

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    • Thanks:) Been added to front page.

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  • Why is the page for Billy's Pedal to the Medal playlist being deleted? It's been deleted twice with no explanation I can see.

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    • Because I feel that the character playlists aren't significant enough to have their own articles. Maybe they can be mentioned in a character's trivia section and in the "Marketing" section on Season Two page, but for every playlist to have its own article is excessive and unnecessary. 

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  • Before we get any further into updating the wiki, I thought it would be nice to take a moment and share our thoughts on Season 2. It was something that we'd been waiting on for a long, long time, it would almost be a little weird not to.

    Season 2 is an interesting mixture of things. Season 1 was nostalgiac about 80s cinema, but Season 2 also incorporates nostalgia for Season 1. I thought at points, it felt perhaps a little too self-aware. Thankfully, that mostly dies off as the season progresses.

    I thought that, generally, the season did a good job at developing the returning characters. Steve, Dustin, Lucas, Will, Hopper and Joyce were especially great; they all got fleshed out, in one way or another. There were a few characters that did feel a little underdeveloped though, especially Jonathan and the Wheeler family in general.

    I have mixed feelings on Eleven's story. It had a great start: I loved the flashback to Eleven escaping the Upside Down (though it would have been cool if she had spent a little more time there). And I liked the dynamic between her and Hopper. However, the whole Terry Ives plotline felt a little unnecessary. I appreciate what they were going for with episode eight, but it did feel very clunky and out of place. The reunion with Mike was good, although I think it could've been a little earlier. Hopefully Season 3 can be a little more consistent in regards to her. The adoption is a good start.

    I liked most of the new characters. Dr Owens was surprisingly complex and well-written, while Bob was just a really likeable guy. Max and Murray were solid, although they didn't always add that much to the story. Neither Billy nor Kali were awful, but they did end up being slightly disappointing, especially since they had such impressive entrances. Hopefully they will be fleshed out next season.

    Perhaps my favorite aspect was the development of the Upside Down. The Mind Flayer and the Demo-dogs were a very worthy follow-up to the original Demogorgon. I was happy that they didn't answer too many questions, and left things somewhat mysterious. Very curious about the future of the Upside Down. The visuals, music and action sequences were also a cut above Season 1. 

    Overall, it wasn't as coherent as Season 1, but just as enjoyable, and delivered some of the best episodes of the show yet. 

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    • (Apologies for the really late reply. I had typed out my reponse but it didn't post, so I had to type it out again.)

      I loved the story this season. I love movies where characters have to survive and outsmart a hoard of creatues (Jurassic Park, Tremors, Attack the Block). The demodogs were fun additions and the scene with Will being possessed was phenomenal. Though, I kind of wish the threat was a little more widepsread this season. From the initial teaser trailer, and Gremlins being an inspiration, I was under the impression all of Hawkins would be affected. While that did happen somewhat with the pumpkins and tunnel system, for the most part the threat was still contained mostly to the lab and the Byers' house. 

      I really like the character development for some of the characters. Seeing more of Dustin's and Lucas's famlies and homes was great. It was also great to see more a Will, even if he wasn't completely himself. Seeing how much Eleven has learned being away from the lab for a year, and seeing her express a wider range of emotions was also great. However, I was kind of disappointed with Nancy and Jonathan, whose characters are almost stagnant.

      The new characters were really enjoyable. I remember going in ready to hate Owens, but by the end I really liked him. Bob Newby was also great. I'm glad Will had a positive father figure in his life, even if it wasn't for very long. Max was a great addition to the kids, and while I was never a fan of love triangles, I really like how the one between her, Lucas, and Dustin was handled. Sure, there was some competition between Lucas and Dustin, but it never got to the point where it strained their friendship. Luckily, it appears that love triangle was only a one season thing. 

      I kind of wish we got to see more of Murray Bauman. Just when I was really getting into his character, he stopped appearing. One thing that completely rubbed me the wrong way was Billy's interaction with Karen. I'm hoping and praying that scene was simply to show the "captivating" side of Billy's character and not alluding to anything in season 3.

      The soundtrack for this season was amazing, but it feels like they opted for using classic '80s music than an original score. Sometimes the music can be fun, but other times it can be distracting and can even pull emotion from a scene.

      Now, on to the subject of Eleven's backstory. I feel like it should have been handled differently. Not omitted, but maybe more dispersed across seasons. Like, Eleven discovered her mother this season, and then found Kali the next season, or vice versa.

      As for the entirety of episode 7, I personally don't have many problems with it, and even enjoyed it, but I can definitely see where the backlash is coming from. Having a stand alone episode in a show that's supposed to be an 8 hour movie is not the best idea. That's why I originally assumed it would be episode 9, that way it would function as a giant epilogue of sorts. When it was revealed to be 7, I was worried it would ruin the flow of the show, and my suspicions were correct.

      I know from all I've written it seems like I didnt like the season that much, but I assure you I really enjoyed it. While I'm not a fan of all the decisions they made, I did like where they took the main story and expanded the world they created. I will fully admit that some of the problems I had are from my own personal opinions and expectations. While I can't say I liked it more than the first, I will say it made me excited for the third. The possibility of Brenner still being alive? The Mind Flayer watching over them? Kali, another Hawkins Lab test subject with abilities, is still out there? Eleven finally getting to live a normal life? Is there a release date yet???

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    • I see what you mean. It did sound as if the Upside Down would threaten all of Hawkins. Nevertheless I was impressed by the increased scale of the threat, from the Mind Flayer to the root tunnels, from the Demodogs to that gargantuan Gate. I think the Duffers are doing the right thing by incrementally raising the stakes, from season to season. We probably won't even witness the full wrath of the Mind Flayer until the final season, assuming he is indeed the series's main villain. 

      Nancy, Jonathan and their relationship were definitely underdeveloped. They got off to a good start in the first few episodes, but then it got stilted. Jonathan was especially disappointing. At least Nancy had that whole Justice for Barb storyline going on, as well as the cute Snow Ball moment. Jonathan didn't really have anything else to do besides hooking up with Nancy. With Mike, it makes sense that he would have a reduced role, after what happened with Eleven. There was no such reason for Jonathan. 

      Is it bad that I actually loved the scene with Billy and Karen...? It felt so messed up, but in a really fun kind of way. I don't think anything would realistically happen between them, that would be a step too far for sure. I think the aim of the scene was to highlight how laughably stale Karen and Ted's relationship has become. 

      Yeah, I think the show was rushing to establish Eleven's relationship with Terry and Kali. Maybe it will pay off in future seasons. But I think Eleven's story in Season 2 would have been more enjoyable if it focused on her relationships with Hopper and the other kids. Maybe Terry or Kali would still play a role, but not both of them. 

      At first I was slightly underwhelmed by the apparent lack of obvious set-up for Season 3, beside the Mind Flayer tease at the end. But after thinking over it, I realised there were a ton of possibilities that this season has created, there were a lot of subtle set-ups. 

      The confrontation between Max and Billy has surprising implications, if you think about it. The way that Max violently dealt with Billy was perhaps the most chilling moment of the season. Is she getting dragged into Billy's awful cycle of abuse with his father? Plus, Max uses the same needle which was being used on the possessed Will, which probably can't be a good thing.

      The idea of Brenner and other test subjects being out there is definitely intriguing. There's also that fragment of the Mind Flayer that leaves Will, we never see what happens to it. Could that be out there too? And will Terry ever wake up? Could we see a mother-daughter team-up against Brenner?! The ideas just go on and on - will Eleven and Max become buddies? (I wanna see Eleven on a skateboard!) Can the Wheeler family survive another year without collapsing? How are Will and Eleven going to interact, considering their shared connection to the Upside Down? Will Hopper and Joyce get together? And will we ever learn the fate of Yurtle the turtle? Questions, questions, questions...

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    • Good point. I guess I was just expecting more mass mayhem and widespread panic. Thinking it over, it's probably best that they slowly build up the threat, since there's still 2-3 seasons to go.

      I guess that's one way to look at the Billy and Karen scene, and it definitely makes sense in the context of this season being darker. But just don't think I'll ever be ok with it. I am glad that Karen is starting to treat herself, though. Like, Ted is not the best husband and now her kids are off fighting secret government organizations and interdimensional creatures behind her back. She definitely deserves more bubble baths.

      Yeah, I agree. It would have been more interesting to see her tackling with trying to be a "normal" kid after spending the first 12 years of her life in the lab, and her growing relationship with Hopper. But I guess that's what season 3 could be for.

      I can definitely see Kali coming back into the equation, maybe as an antagonist or even becoming an unlikely hero after getting a redemtion arc. What I want to know is the role Terry Ives will play in future seasons. It would be really strange for there to be no mention of her ever again, especially after the emotional reunion with Eleven. 

      I really don't think Max would allow herself to become abusive like Billy and her stepfather. Max did what she did because Billy was violently beating Steve, potentially to death. While her actions may have not been ethical, or completely justifiable, they did come from defending her friends and self defense. The look they shared before the Snow Ball could have been to establish to the audience that Max no longer has to deal with Billy's abuse, or at least not as much as before. (Of couse, this is mostly coming from speculation and my own opinions, so I could be completely wrong, but I have faith in Max.) The syringe issue is also interesting. Perhaps this could be foreshadowing to Billy's threat status being promoted to a much bigger threat level next season? Maybe the Mind Flayer's next host? 

      Yeah, the Duffers stated they intentionally made the season wrap up more neatly so they can start the next with more of a clean state. They also hinted that the Mind Flayer may have an interest in Eleven and her powers. With this knowledge, and all the unresolved plot threads from this season, there is plenty to speculate on how the next season will go down. 

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  • https://discord.gg/tDSxhNK

    Hey there, I'm trying to set up a Discord chat sever and I'd love for you to join so we can start working on it! The link above will automatically send you to it.

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  • Hiya 008,

    I'm looking at the various issues/things that need to be addressed as Season 2 approaches, and I'm making a short list. After I've sent that, let me know if there's anything else to be discussed.

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    • You might have noticed, I've uploaded a new version of the Welcome image, one which is much less bulky. The "upside down" imagery is pretty self-explanatory, but out of curiousity, I've also made a flipped version.

      Stranger Things Wiki - Welcome refined flipped


      I personally prefer the original version, though I wonder if this flipped, more straight-forward version might be preferred amongst Wiki readers. Would appreciate your opinion on this, have been wondering about this for a little while. 

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    • I like it, makes the front page look less cramped. I honestly don't have a preference between the original or the flipped version. Though, if I had to choose, probably the original since it ties in the Upside Down theme of the wiki.

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