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  • I was thinking we could throw around some thoughts and suggestions about what the wiki needs to keep growing and improving. Things seemed to be going in the right direction in September, with many active contributors, discussions and decisions made as a community, but that development has kind of stalled. What could we all do to move in that direction again? I'll add my two cents later if this gets any replies :)

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    • Might be a good idea to look at successful wikis and see what makes them so successful. Then some of those aspects could be incorporated into this wiki.

      Also, I know this is a minor thing and perhaps not entirely relevant, but I really really think there should be a black and red color scheme throughout the wiki, to emulate the feel of the title sequence. The grey and black is fine but it's a little dull.

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    • That's a good idea. I'm a little surprised that there aren't more contributors here, considering how popular Stranger Things is and especially on the internet.

      The design is absolutely relevant and I'm sure it's off-putting to some users. It should be improved upon as it looks very unprofessional, kind of incomplete and it's not easy on the eyes. A darker theme would be very nice. It's harder to pull off than a light one, but I'd like to see it done. Do you design? Or maybe you have some examples of what could look nice?

      My main problems with the design are the font choices and infoboxes. The fonts basically go against every design principle ever; they're difficult to read and look "bulky" and out of place. The infoboxes have way too much padding and take up too much space in the article because they use that horrible "Europa" theme from Wikia. (I changed all that in my personal CSS, haha.)

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    • I think the foundations of a strong wiki are present here. I bet we'll see a lot more activity from contributors leading up to and during the release of Season 2.

      Until then, perhaps we could convince some of the people over at the Stranger Things subreddit and similar sites to join us and enlist their help in developing and maintaining the wiki.

      I'll Photoshop some kind of mock-up design whenever I get the chance.

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    • This is this design I've come up with.
      Stranger Things Wiki
       To be honest, I don't know much about what can and can not be done in Wikia, but I can guess there are probably limitations or rules regarding things like layout and font. In any case, hopefully things can be pushed in this direction.

      Our existing logo is fine but a little bland; it's clear the word 'wiki' has simply been inserted to the side of the actual Stranger Things logo. My logo has a little more individuality, I feel.

      I changed the background to the background from makeitstranger.com, which itself is an altered still from Chapter Six. I wanted something darker - it contrasts with the vibrant red well.

      I love the Benguiat font, but Avant Garde works much better in the context of the wiki. It's easier to read and effortlessly gives off 80s vibes.

      The design is minimalistic and carries over the same aesthetic from the opening titles. In some ways, my design is reminiscient of Monochromatic Bunny's original test wiki, what with the reds and blacks. I tried to reduce the amount of padding in the infoboxes. I tested out a 'contents' box with different topics branching out like trees - I suspect this effect might be difficult to achieve. The yellow for the 'edit' buttons gives them uniformity. 

      It's not perfect; I think the red is perhaps a little overpowering in places and the infobox still needs work, but something like this would be easier on the eyes and much more aesthetically pleasing.

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    • Hey, that was fast. Good job.

      I like your concept and I'm especially fond of what you did with the logo. It looks much better with a filled color and, as you say, has more individuality than the current one. Has my vote.

      But as you said, there are limitations to what can be done with Wikia. I'm pretty sure the sidebar (with the Help us grow STW and so on) must remain the same size, and I think you can't change the edit, talk and other buttons like that, or the table of contents in the way you have. I think it's best to follow the Keep It Simple Stupid principle and stick to changing the fonts and colors within the framework of Wikia's base layout here, without messing too much with positioning and stuff. I like your creativity though.

      The red looks a bit overpowering, as you noted yourself, and especially in contrast with the black in some places. I think if we're to go with a darker background, we need to keep the details lighter, so I would suggest making the navigation bar and infobox fonts light. Also, the red of the logo and the other elements should be uniform. Again, I would suggest going for the lighter red of the logo so the red/black contrast is not so "imposing" but a little softer.

      All in all I'm impressed that you came up with all of this so fast. It's a step in the right direction here :)

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    • I wholeheartedly agree with your criticism and thoughts. This was very much a rushed design - I wasn't paying much attention to little things like keeping the red uniform.

      I'll delve back in sooner or later and make some adjustments. Might take a little longer.

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    • Apologies for the long wait for the new draft - I am very busy at the moment

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    • Is this thread still a thing?

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    • It is still a thing. It matters to me that somebody should be in control of this wiki. Obviously i dont deserve the bureaucrat status, but i do really think somebody should adopt this wiki.

      I mean, to be fair, all admins are inactive, the bureaucrat is inactive and same goes to the rest.

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    • In regards to the adoption thing, a user recently tried to adopt the wiki but it seems that situation hit a dead end. I myself was thinking of adopting the wiki, but all admins have to be inactive for 60 days, and the last time an admin made any edits was on February 25. 

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    • Does five edits on two different dates over a span of five months really count as active, though? Note the "inactive for 60 days" thing is just a guideline.

      The same guidelines also state "If there are other users please start a blog post or other public discussion of new leadership before making your request and allow users at least a week to respond." I think you should go ahead and start that discussion, ZZE ;)

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    • Yeah, I suppose that's true. Ok! I'll start as soon as I'm able to! 

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    • The only problem that has yet suprisingly been faced is that there is no tolerance and no control. I mean, yeah, the admins can only tolerate but the owner can do more. Which is why i frel ZeroZeroEight and TheGreatGabester deserve to be bureaucrats.

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    • 80XPD wrote: Does five edits on two different dates over a span of five months really count as active, though? Note the "inactive for 60 days" thing is just a guideline.

      The same guidelines also state "If there are other users please start a blog post or other public discussion of new leadership before making your request and allow users at least a week to respond." I think you should go ahead and start that discussion, ZZE ;)

      I dont think so.

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    • TheGreatGabester wrote:

      This is this design I've come up with.
      Stranger Things Wiki
       To be honest, I don't know much about what can and can not be done in Wikia, but I can guess there are probably limitations or rules regarding things like layout and font. In any case, hopefully things can be pushed in this direction.

      Our existing logo is fine but a little bland; it's clear the word 'wiki' has simply been inserted to the side of the actual Stranger Things logo. My logo has a little more individuality, I feel.

      I changed the background to the background from makeitstranger.com, which itself is an altered still from Chapter Six. I wanted something darker - it contrasts with the vibrant red well.

      I love the Benguiat font, but Avant Garde works much better in the context of the wiki. It's easier to read and effortlessly gives off 80s vibes.

      The design is minimalistic and carries over the same aesthetic from the opening titles. In some ways, my design is reminiscient of Monochromatic Bunny's original test wiki, what with the reds and blacks. I tried to reduce the amount of padding in the infoboxes. I tested out a 'contents' box with different topics branching out like trees - I suspect this effect might be difficult to achieve. The yellow for the 'edit' buttons gives them uniformity. 

      It's not perfect; I think the red is perhaps a little overpowering in places and the infobox still needs work, but something like this would be easier on the eyes and much more aesthetically pleasing.

      I think the design looks perfect!

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    • I´m new on this wiki and am actually not sure how much I will be able to do, but I am a fan and love this show. Anyway, if I may, I would like to say something to the design... to be honest the black background with the white-red letters is quite uncomfortable... I like the rest and everything, but maybe gray background and black letters would be better...?

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    • Grey with black letters was the wiki's original design. The reason why it was changed was because it looked dull and did not really fit the mood of the show. Maybe we could change the background to be more of a dark red/crimson, but going back to the grey would be negating the main point of the redesign.

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    • Well, the previous design had a grey background and black text, with blue links. The shift was made so the wiki had a similar visual aesthetic to the title sequence (red and black). That being said, we could potentially alter the shades of the colors/colours used, so the different elements complement each other better - e.g. using light grey text. Thanks for your feedback.

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    • TheGreatGabester yes, I understand that the visual stile should match the feel of the show, and that should be so. Maybe.... maybe if the upper control panel and the title stay black-red (like in the show) and the background gets a bit changed...? idk,... you don´t have to do like I say, I only try to help...

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    • Don't worry, I understand. We staff appreciate feedback, we really do. We are definitely open to making tweaks.

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    • I think the new design has many nice elements and touches, but the overall impression I'm left with is that it's a little overdone. Many elements that were fine as they were have been tampered with and comined it seems a little messy and incoherent. Maybe they're cool or whatever on their own, but they don't fit with the whole composition.

      Also, it's unpleasant on the eyes. No, not ugly, but literally unpleasant like my eyes have to concentrate extra hard and get tired quickly. I think that's a result of the very dark background in contrast with the font color, combined with the fact that the font is not super-easy to read (though I really like the font choice).

      Anyways, just a head up that Fandom will be changing the look of the headers on all wikis soon and the design will have to be adjusted accordingly. :) Read about it here.

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    • Can you be more specific on which elements you are talking about? I wish to know so that I can take these problems into consideration and fix them accordingly.

      As for the background, I did propose to change the color to dark crimson, or a similar color. Do you think that would help? As for the font, I'm personally fine with it, though I wish it was easier to tell when things were bold.

      Yes, I am aware of the new header designs. However, because the change is only affecting the header, it seems the only thing we may have to take into account is the corner image. It also looks like CSS for the custom font may no longer work, but honestly that is a small issue.

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    • ZeroZeroEight
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    • Please could you offer some more detailed thoughts on these mismatched​ elements - perhaps some examples? Would you have any suggestions as to how these elements can be unified?

      I am aware that the color scheme is not to everyone's taste. Personally, I don't mind it and much prefer it to the previous color scheme, but then again I may have simply become accustomed to the change. I wonder if tweaking the shades of the whites, blacks and reds will result in something a little more balanced.

      I don't have any issues reading the font, though again that may be because I am used to it. If we were to change the font, I would seek to choose another with a 1980s feel.

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    • Khairiboss0601
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    • While I agree it may be best to start a new thread, I believe you can also simply unfollow this one if you no longer wish to get notifications.

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    • I am trying to give every template in the front page's right hand column a red border, as with the countdown. This would help to unify the look of the front page, and make it feel less random. However, I'm having some difficulty applying this to the Episodes template.

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    • Is this what you were going for?

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    • Yes, that's spot on! I don't know why I couldn't figure that out, it seems like a relatively simple task. Good job, anyway!

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    • oops...while playing around with the new header, I accidentally deleted the previous version of the background image. To be honest, what you had there was much better, so feel free to re-upload.

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    • Thanks!

      Alright, I changed the header back. I did upload that image as a sort of placeholder, so feel free to change the image if you can think of a better one.

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    • I live in Atlanta and have been doing photography for a decade.  I love to shoot filming locations.  I'll be out taking photos here and there.  I already was given permission twice to photograph the Byers house.  I have photos from the outside only (inside shots are done at the studio).  I was able to photograph the front, back, sides, and sheds.  This weekend (Nov3-5) I'll be taking photos at several locations.

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